PoliticsUK
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The Q&A session with CLEAR leader Peter
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Thank you
Peter Reynolds
I agree
PoliticsUK
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Thank you Mr Peter Reynolds. PoliticsUK - New
Generation and its moderators are not responsible for any allegations
made.
Let us begin.
Allegedly you claim to have worked
at Saatchi & Saatchi but subsequent checks have apparently been
made but they had never heard of you. Why is that?
Peter
Reynolds
During the second half of the 1980s I worked as a
freelance creative director/copywriter at just about every major
London advertising agency. In particular I did a great deal of work
for the below the line subsidiary of S&S called MDS based in
Whitfield St just behind the main agency building.
I'm not
here to talk about my career history though. I'm hear to talk about
ending the prohibition of cannabis, most urgently for those who need
it as medicine.
PoliticsUK - New Generation
Thank you Mr
Peter Reynolds -
'Allegedly members of CLEAR raised legitimate
concerns and questions were dubbed "trolls and liars",
repeatedly threatened with the police (including medicinal users) and
generally abused by you in the most vicious of ways.'
Is this
true? and if so why is that?
Peter Reynolds
Is that a
serious question or just more abuse dressed up as such?
Peter
Reynolds
The hate campaign against me was not by CLEAR members.
It did not raise legitimate concerns. There are a number of liars and
trolls amongst the "crazy stoners". It was me and my
colleagues who were subject to the most vicious abuse.
Peter
Reynolds
There is currently an active police investigation into
the hijacking of the CLEAR website, theft of CLEAR data, criminal
harassment and blackmail. This includes officers from the specialist
computer forensics department. I expect several individuals to face
serious charges and at least one if not more to receive substantial
prison sentences. If you look at the recent case involving the
British Pregnancy Advisory Service website, it resulted in the main
perpetrator receiving a two year, eight month jail sentence . The
circumstances are almost identical.
PoliticsUK New
Generation
In your blog you wrote about "evil Jews",
decribed homosexuals as "perverts" and labelled the entire
nation of Pakistan as "wicked" and "evil." Why is
that?
Peter Reynolds
No, PUK, those allegations are untrue
but I am not here to talk about what I wrote on my website three
years and more ago, or the way in which some of my articles have been
falsified, I am here to talk about ending the prohibition of
cannabis.
Politics New Generation
OK Then,
How can you
represent the cannabis community when the cannabis community asked
PUK to revoke the politician of the year award - which subsequently
was revoked?
Peter Reynolds
PUK, there is no such thing as
a "cannabis community", nor a "cannabis culture".
Cannabis is used in many communities and many cultures. It is a
mainstream issue. Those who seek to present it as an alternative or
counter culture are divisive and prejudiced. I have still to received
any explanation as to why the award was revoked. It is farcical.
There was an investigation carried out which said it was perfectly
proper but then the trolls, liars and bullies targeted Alan Wylie and
he caved in. He hasn't had the decency to offer me any explanation
but heh, easy come, easy go! It's of little consequence.
PoliticsUK
New Generation
Is CLEAR a single issue party? If so, does it plan
to expand to make itself more electable? If not, is CLEAR planning to
put more emphasis on its other concerns?
Peter Reynolds
PUK,
CLEAR is a single issue party. We have no plans to expand beyond that
and being "electable" is not a priority. We may choose to
stand in elections if we believe it would be in the interests of the
campaign. For instance, if I had the chance to stand against Charles
Walker or James Brokenshire or Nadine Dorries. Politics is not all
about elections. As we have said many times, we don't aim to win
seats but to win influence.
PoliticsUK - New Generation
Would
you work with pro-cannabis law reformers in other parties or figures
such as Richard Branson and Russell Brand?
Peter Reynolds
I
will work with anyone to end the prohibition of cannabis
PoliticsUK
- New Generation
Do you ever seek election to the House of
Commons? How many candidates will CLEAR be fielding in upcoming
elections?
Peter Reynolds
I believe I've answered the
question on elections and our policy has been discussed many times by
the committee and published many times on the website. It's very
simple. It's a question of what is the most effective use of our
resources.
PoliticsUK - New Generation
Where do you stand
on the issue of Scottish independence/separation
Peter
Reynolds
Scottish independence is not an issue that greatly
concerns me. If I was Scottish it might. I am very, very proud to be
Welsh but I 'm also very proud to be British. I think the United
Kingdom is a great nation
PoliticsUK - New
Generation
Currently, how many registered members does your party
have? You claimed you would resign if there were not 10,000 by March
2012.
Peter Reynolds
We have well in excess of 10,000
registered supporters. Our Facebook page alone is now in excess of
9600 registrations/.
PoliticsUK - New Generation
Peter
Reynolds - the question refers to paid-up party members, not Facebook
supporters. What are the figures for paid-up party members?
Peter
Reynolds
We took a decision some months ago not to support demos
or marches. They are essentially social events and are nothing to do
with campaigning. It's just preaching to the choir. Our resources
will be focused on the Cannabis Truth roadshow where we can do
something constructive. Have a great time if you go to one of these
events but don't pretend they achieve anything. I had a meeting last
week with the New York lawyer who is organising the New York Global
Marijuana march and he is planning to divert his efforts into genuine
campaigning next year. Marching in the streets achieves nothing. In
fact, it probably antagonises more people than it
converts.
PoliticsUK - New Generation
Please answer the
official questions Mr Reynolds.
Peter Reynolds
When we
were called the LCA we had 68 paid up full members and I don't
believe it was ever much higher than a couple of hundred. The LCA
Facebook page had about 4000 registrations.
PoliticsUK - New
Generation
In which case Mr Peter Reynolds. If the claim that you
would resign if you did reach 10,000 members by March 2012 is true,
why have you not resigned? Is the claim a
lie?
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He refused to answer. So
we stopped the interview.
PoliticsUK did comment:
Politics
UK Sorry to Interrupt.
The post by Mr Reynolds with involves
the PUK owner is an outright lie.
On the 1st of April PUK
posted this link
https://www.facebook.com/PoliticsUK/posts/325719184154766
Prior
to posting this Alan Wyllie contacted Mr Reynolds. In normal
circumstances we would not make public private messages but on this
occasion it would be appropriate.
" 1 April
Alan
Wyllie
In the last 24 hour I have received many PM's.
The
vast majority are about the validity of the PUKs Politician of the
Year.
We have rules on this: 'Any awards can be withdrawn if
there is sufficient belief that the award was not won in accordance
with the rules, or without the correct spirit in which they should
have been held and voted on. Such awards may be reclaimed by PUK if
it is felt that the awarding has reflected badly on PoliticsUK or its
owner. "
Its now got to the stage where I now question
the validity of the award. Having a poll hijacked is one thing but
the allegations against you are now negatively affecting both myself
and PUK.
Ive resisted this as much as I can but I regretfully
have to withdraw the PUK award to you,
Sorry Peter
Peter
Reynolds
1 April
That
is ridiculous! You investigated it before. The poll wasn't hijacked.
Absurd! You've been bullied into this. That's the only hijacking that
has taken place.
Do as you will Alan. I'm very disappointed.
Be careful you don't libel me or CLEAR with any
announcement.
Peter"
Due to alleged police
investigations into Peter's actions PUK decided to distance itself
from CLEAR.
Eventually Mr Reynolds was banned from PUK New
Generation for breaching PUK's Terms of Use.
Alan
Wyllie
PoliticsUK
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Token
Ma Weed Derek is that like the reasonable vote CLEAR just had where
members who PR knew would vote against him were not told about a vote
?
PoliticsUK - New Generation The official line of questioning
is now over an users may now ask Peter Reynolds any relevenat
questions, I am sure Mr Reynolds will be more than happy to
answer.
Des Humphrey Dr Carla Margam?
Jim Pinky Starr
its all about the money with you isnt it peter!
Kevin John
Braid Derek your group is destroyng the hard work of others, standing
on the shoulders of giants, please !!! clear have done NOTHING nut
alienate so many good allies in our fight to end prohibition, i
suggest PR goes and founds Conservatives For Cannabis etc.... he is
not for the mainstream movement, or any stream for that matter
Derek
Williams token, how about discussing prohibition? Take you agenda
away please
Token Ma Weed Comment above for PR not you Derek ,
Well when i checked out clears site alot of people were saying they
were not told about a vote then their comments went missing !
Leon
French Peter, can you please provide any comments on Politics UK's
post regarding the PUK award?
Peter Reynolds Leon, I've
already answered it above.
Chris Bovey Thank you PoliticsUK -
New Generation, for giving Reynolds to once again have to opportunity
to publicly expose himself as a liar, a grass and totally unsuitable
to lead any cannabis campaign.
Rhys Jones it is a proposal for
discussion.lol ,how can anyone discuss anything when they risk being
blocked for asking questions,like 50% of the people blocked/banned
from commenting on clear.How many people have been blocked by
clear,Peter?can you remember?can you even remember why they were
blocked? we cant all be liars and trolls peter surely?
Çannabis
Trüth I've had several (until previously uninvolved) Clear
members get in touch with me and say they never recieve an email
Derek Williams - The results of any vote that is so loosley monitored
and without independance are null. Is it true Clear turned down
offers to pay an independant third party to cary out the vote?
Carl
Moggy Scrivens Was the vote legit peter? Are you going to stand by
your word and stand down on may the 5th........and mostly why inform
to the police when things don't go your way
Jim Pinky Starr he
cant answer as it will backfire on him! nice to see his sidekick
robin turn up to try and sort his mess out again, it must be...
Leon
French Where abouts Peter? Apologies if I've just missed it.
Kevin
John Braid seriously ppl, Howard Marks and Nol van Schaik do NOT like
the man,. wont work with him either.... what more u need, for Cheech
n Chong to come into the fray, damn....so many bad bad things
pointing to PR, he is just not good at all.... i cannot believe the
dissaray within the community this man has caused.... i swear it gets
much worse and i will go with the notion that he is an infitrate from
the man, to down the movement sheesh...
Des Humphrey Mr
Reynolds how do you feel in your yourself for grassing medical users
and growers, some of these users/growers have had to go back to
prescribed medication in fear of a police knock at the door, some
have MS, Crohn's spinal probs?
Peter Reynolds On the CLEAR
website and Facebook page, people are only ever blocked for abuse or
foul language.
Sanj Chowdhary Derek Williams, I love how you
call them MY group when they are nothing of the sort...they are all
free minded individuals who share an opinion. I nor any single person
influences their feelings, except that is the actions of Peter
Reynolds. I think you credit me with far too much influence and
significance than is deserved lol!
A Quiet Man now that peter
has won the clear support will those that have spent so much time
attacking him and the rest of clear ever get back to campaigning for
cannabis law reform? also does he think that the cannabis reform
movement has reached a point where certain interested parties
(criminals and prohibition supporters like the daily mail) all see a
big change coming and are frightened their world is about to
change.
Derek Williams You've had several people who claim to
be CLEAR embers mail you. Did they contact the party to ask for their
vote? Did they join after the cut off date in answer to Gregs
cmapaign to get people to join in order to vote against Peter?
Lloyd
James Why do you think, as a nationalist, grass, right-wing bigot,
that you are the best candidate to be the leading force in ending the
prohibition of cannabis?
PoliticsUK - New Generation Official
Questioning will end at 5.15pm, Mr Reynolds is a busy man and does
not have that much spare time.
Rhys Jones what about the fraud
convivtion should people really send you money to join clear,I mean
plenty of people are asking about the 13k spent.On what
exactly?
Danny Stamp Can you explain why licencing is proposed
before complete legalisation. Is it just seen as the easier thing to
achieve, and will only serve as an interim measure before we push a
bit more and get full legalisation? How have you calculated the
chances of this succeeding versus the chance of success by
concentrating just on legalisation and free consumer
growth/use?
Leon French Folks, let's ask questions in a mature
manner please.
Jim Pinky Starr hes wasting a lot of time in
that case. we should have thinking time added on!
Derek
Williams Sanj Chowdhary - look at the people here, all the usual
gang.
Jamie Plowman-Render peter why do you block so many
people from clear for having a different opinion to yours how is that
democracy
PoliticsUK - New Generation Remaining questions from
users:
Allegedly, in another blog post you compared Israel to
a "Nazi power" and Gaza to a "Warsaw ghetto" in a
claim that "Palestinian children are being murdered by Jews".
If this is true, why did you generalise Jews? Why did you not refer
to atrocities committed against Israelis by Palestinians?
What
are CLEAR's plans for the next 5 years?
You say you are from
Weymouth, is there wide usage of cannabis there? What are the
figures?
Which bullet-point topics do you think you'd
concentrate on if called to give evidence before the Home Affairs
Select Committee?
Can you clarify where the £13,500 of
missing funds from CLEAR funds went? Did the money actually go
missing?
Allegedly, you have claimed connections with the
Medicine Wheel Project and Victor Hamilton. Is this true, if so what
is your involvement?
Does CLEAR dismiss people for questioning
the party leadership or is this a false claim? If false, why do
former supporters claim this?
Why did you base your vote of
confidence on an email system which is generally considered
unreliable and prone to fraud?
Do you think that the Olympics
are worth the cost?
Allegedly you called UK activists
supporting the Dutch Weed Pass "protest traitors". Is this
true? If so, why?
What recognized academic qualifications do
you have which proves that you are well-educated in the effects of
cannabis?
Why have so many members of the CLEAR Executive
Committee resigned or been expelled?
Peter Reynolds - We ask
that you answer all of these questions.
Chris Bovey Peter
Reynolds: PUK, I think marches are counterproductive. I don't see how
I can be more clear about that.
Here is an article written by
Reynolds a year ago after attending a march in Cardiff on behalf of
CLEAR:
http://www.clear-uk.org/cardiff-7th-may-2011-million-marijuana-march-hippies-in-suits/
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Jim Pinky Starr all ex members of clear i believe. im not but
most seem to be ex exec comm
Greg Cure de Hoedt Not according
to all the members, Derek.
Peter Reynolds Des, the
suggestion that I have "grassed" medical users and growers
is false. Those responsible for criminal acts against CLEAR have been
reported to the police and will be prosecuted. As someone said a week
or so ago, just because some scumbag mugger has got a joint in his
mouth doesn't excuse him from being reported for his crimes.
CLEAR
and its members are entitled to protection under the law against
criminal acts.
Greg Cure de Hoedt Too hard to log in back and
forth between multiple accounts
Peter Reynolds AQM, I think
you're absolutely right. I also think that a large part of the "crazy
stoner" brigade don't really want reform. They enjoy being
"alternative" and part of a subculture. I firmly believe
that big change is on its way.
Alan Greenfield That's bullshit
Peter, I had an account blocked simply for posting a video of you
giving a speech.
Sanj Chowdhary Where are the reynolds
supporters...except the usual suspects that is!!??
Jim Pinky
Starr tick, tock, tick, tock....
Derek Williams Strange how I
know so many names here isn't it?
Rhys Jones i was never
abusive and i never swore but i did ask questions.lol
Darryl
Bickler I never supported the Clear plan, I merely pointed out the
worst aspects of it. The problem with your invitation for debate is
we know what will happen as it did last time. I spent hours posting
only to realise that the whole thing is a fait accompli, that you
have decided what Clear is and what it will do already no matter what
- problem is we know why you have this ideological commitment to your
way or the highway, and you seemingly have sold out cannabis users
completely to try and make money from various projects - the fact
that you are against liberty and come out with stuff about people
being too stoned and even deny the whole culture around cannabis and
twist everything to suit your own predicament not the actual
situation is a terrible state of affairs. I think you have abandoned
protest because you know what people will protest about, only one
thing worse than prohibition is someone who would try to ingratiate
themselves and do harm in the way that I am convinced you are doing
by being a cannabis appologist.
Çannabis Trüth
Derek - Do you mean the usual gang of disabled Medical cannabis
patients? - who only want an end to prohibition? and see Peter for
the charlatan he really is? yep, we are all here.
Jim Pinky
Starr i think the policy clear has is that if someone doesnt agre
with peter they become a troll!
Jim Pinky Starr what like
smoking and using/ growing cannabis?
Derek Williams yes
Çannabis Trüth, you have made it impossible for Peter to
discuss prohibition - well done
Çannabis Trüth He
did that to himself I'm afraid... as soon as he abandoned the
democratic process.
Rhys Jones can you remember why you banned
me Peter?
Jim Pinky Starr at least we hit the streets trying
to get support and not just loose it online.
Sanj Chowdhary As
I said to you before Derek Williams, as much as it would suit your
fantasy to believe that I am heading a conspiracy, I am not
orchestrating anything at all.....I think what you actually find is
that the usual suspects have grown in number and have a single
commonality....they have all been abused or disgusted by Peter's
actions and behaviour.
Canna Bartman In a cyber room with Derk
and Pedro. Doesn't it make you feel dirty? But whilst we're here can
we discuss these accusations the pair of you are flinging at Mr
Ditchfield. Could do with be cleared up really
Sarah
Chalk Clear??? unclear more like....
Stinking Sativas I've
seen many fairly composed and polite posts stripped from the CLEAR
facebook and website including my own. Censorship for censorships
sake, not to remove insults but to remove free thought!
Greg
Cure de Hoedt Oh, big change is on it's way. Don't get sober on your
way to the door , Peter.
Derek Williams Canna Bartman, another
familiar person. It's smaill internet isn't it!
Leon French
PoliticsUK - New Generation, as interesting as this "debate"
and interview has been, I honestly think it's just breaking down into
abuse now.
Peter Reynolds Derek, the vote couldn't have been
more widely publicised. There was a cut off date to prevent organised
gerrymandering. See Pinky shouting and arguing? He's not a CLEAR
member, never has been but you'd never guess that from his behaviour
would you? There are a number like him who want to interfere in our
party with nothing but negative comments and attacks. I wonder why?
Why don't they go and do their own thing if they disagree with
CLEAR?
I can't discuss anything concerning Greg de Hoedt for
legal reasons.
Alan Greenfield Given that most cannabis users
are young, can Peter explain why the CLEAR exec now soley consists of
white, middle class baby boomers? Is there no way to make it better
reflect it's demographic?
Chris Bovey Derek, why do you
support a man who you told me has crass and appalling
judgement?
Darryl Bickler If he says 'crazy stoner' again some
'crazy stoner' might get upset - that's being a bastard Peter, a real
stab in the back to the people you conned into thinking you were
there to help them. sorry but I can't stand it any longer.
Luke
Toot Griffin are you all reading this properly lmao you all sound
like idiots
Sanj Chowdhary I can't see abuse (the odd bit from
both side I might add) but in the main I can see very reasonable
questions!
Çannabis Trüth I think someone should
compile a list of all the dedicated activists Peter has alienated -
many of whom have had media attention and long lists of achievements
to their names.
In fact do you have any Medical patients who
are willing to go public left at all? I guess putting together a new
leaflet is going to be a hard task.
Leon French And I don't
mean just abused directed at Peter, I mean abuse directed at one
another and then questions don't get answered.
Carl Moggy
Scrivens How about doing what you said you would peter and stand
down.......there are not 10,000 paid members and it was you who
bragged if you can't get that by may the 5th the following year you'd
stand down do it
Jim Pinky Starr i have listen to your
promises peter, i have sat on the fence and watched you attack people
for just disagreing with you peter. when we first me i told you i was
an inderpendant and wont join clear because of the costs and because
i dont agree with your policies 100%. you lied to me about the
exclusive story your giving certian papers of my trip to holland. it
didnt even make local papers. sorry peter i believe in the truth and
speak my mind, but yet again you know that but dont like it!
shock
Jim Pinky Starr sorry bout typos hands are bad
Darryl
Bickler What difference does it make derek that you are a busy body
who knows the names of people who are passionate about protecting the
way they are being represented? Nothing of substance from you at all
here except we know your names.
Jamie Plowman-Render peter why
do you block so many people from clear for having a different opinion
to yours how is that democracy
Jim Pinky Starr we had our own
feeling on the lca website. you deleted it all remember removing over
2 years of my work and years of others! you sent me a link to the old
stuff that nothing is available when you click the links. give me the
lca back then and i will do my own thing again with others who think
the same, who people really know about there history! GIVE ME THE
SITE AND I WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO GAIN SUPPORT. i wont even need to run
the site as other will, just give me the name and site back if your
not scared!
Token Ma Weed For the amount of support PR claims
to have i dont see many people on here defending him .
Leigh
Hitchcox I can't believe all this bickering!!! EVERYONE who uses
cannabis wants it legal and regulated, Peter is on the way to getting
this for us. Noone else here who's slagging him off is doing anything
to end prohibition so stop whining, sit back and support Peter in the
cause. You don't have to like your leader to vote for the right
cause... C'mon guys think straight!
Alan Greenfield Why do you
even want to stay as leader when it's clear you're so hated by the
demographic you claim to represent?
Chris Bovey Peter Reynolds
On the CLEAR website and Facebook page, people are only ever blocked
for abuse or foul language.
As someone who was both on the
CLEAR Exec and admin on Facebook, before I was unconstitutionally
expelled by Reynolds, I can absolutely confirm the above statement by
him is a lie. Anyone who was critical of CLEAR or Reynolds was
swiftly banned by him, there were at least 100 people on the ban list
before I was added to it.
Sorry Derek, but I think it is
important to highlight the leader of a political party is a PROVEN
LIAR!
Sarah Chalk Peter, do the manly thing and stand down.
You have pissed off so many ppl, many of whom are long standing
cannabist activists, many of whom have been on demos, marches, stood
in local and general elections and on the whole been very upfront and
honest about it. You however, seem to have your own agenda , and in
my opinion, having your own agenda is not right if you are to be
respected as a leader. You keep going on about how YOU made clear
what it is, YOU apparently do a job that no one else could do, mind
you I defintely wouldnt want to do what you do.
Des Humphrey I
would still like to know about Dr Carla Margam, can you answer any
questions about her please Mr Reynolds?
Rhys Jones Why was i
banned from clear peter?its a reasonable question.its not abusive and
i'm not swearing.
A Quiet Man it has been said before but i
wonder why those that do not like clear and the direction peter has
taken it do not just start their own group and campaign for their own
views it is not that big a thing to do? instead you spend all this
time attacking clear if you are genuine reformers then grow up and
start attacking the cannabis prohibition. i have come to the opinion
that you are frightened by the prospect that clear might actually get
somewhere and that is your only reason for this constant attack you
have all supported. i recognize the first line of defense of the
supporters of prohibition is to bring down any campaigner that might
be successful with personal attacks on character and such well you
have done that and it failed. next attack the means of communication
, well you supported those that hacked the clear site so thats
another box ticked. what next will you support ?
Jamie
Plowman-Render one more time peter why do you block so many people
from clear for having a different opinion to yours how is that
democracy
Canna Bartman Derk? Pedro? Cat your tongues?
Don't be going all shy on us now gents. Question id like answering if
you please....
Darryl Bickler Leigh you are so near but yet so
far - yes none of this is productive, but what Clear stands for will
be a disaster. BTW - cannabis cannot be legal, we have only laws that
declare people's actions to be legal or illegal, we need to
understand the law before talking tosh about regulating cannabis when
it is all about people.
Çannabis Trüth "Noone
else here who's slagging him off is doing anything to end prohibition
so stop whining"
Are you being serious? You are obviously
not very well informed man!
Greg Cure de Hoedt Peter I was at
a drug reform conference last weekend, you happen to be the joke of
the whole weekend from 420 in Hyde Park to us all waking up without
hangovers on monday and remembering it.
Alan Greenfield Peter,
has it ever occured to you that you might be a sociopath?
Jim
Pinky Starr i read my wall Darrel, your to thick to think that. i
dont go into the rooms unless i feel i need to. here i felt like i
needed to. i look forward to seeing you in Cardiff to talk face to
face. lets see if ur a man
Darryl Bickler Ive no idea what you
are talking about Jim - please PM me if its important.
Jim
Pinky Starr so im not honest now peter. pot boiling the
kettle
Raghav Patel You all think that just because you have
medical issues that you are not subject to the law. You assumed
control of the CLEAR website and BROKE the law.
A "grass"
is someone who snitches on something UNRELATED to them or does not
affect them. It sort of affects PR since he is the leader of CLEAR.
OH and the group inbox that arranged all the hacking was
HILARIOUS. To think you're all grown men. There is so much more to
life than the internet. Go out, get some fresh air and make an effort
to end cannabis prohibition rather than encourage Peter
prohibition.
Sanj Chowdhary It's not about liking your
leader....I think we are perfectly straight in our thinking thank you
very much Leigh!! Peter is politically incompetent and naive. His
actions are damaging to the cause and he has actually set back the
movement. These are SOME of the reasons why this man is a failure.
Even by the measure he set himself last year, to attract 10,000
paying members, he has failed!!
Kevin John Braid Leigh he
isnt, he has done more harm to the cause than good mate... lost the
support of 18 MPs.... all UK frug groups, big names threatening to
pull out of an event if that racist swine is there.... please tell us
all what good YOU see please
Token Ma Weed If PR was any sort
off leader he would have stood up by now and answered peoples
questions , if he would have done so this section would not be filled
with people looking answers . Imagine David Cameron calling people
liars and trolls in parliament when questioned on a subject then
banning the from parliament altogether do you really think people
would just go away and be quiet ? No they would want their questions
asked everytime they got a chance like they are doing at the minute
.
Sanj Chowdhary Yey Raghav.... Kinda parji? Teek?
Sanj
Chowdhary Or is it another fake profile Raghav?
Des Humphrey
Mr Reynolds why did you say cannabis has been decriminalised in the
UK?
Alan Greenfield What is the long term plan for CLEAR?
Peter seems pretty keen on making CLEAR a nationally recognised
mainstream political party, but what actually happens when you get
there?
The only reason Peter has made it this far is because
he can simply delete and censor any criticism of him, but what
happens when CLEAR becomes more notable? What is the plan for when
Jeremy Paxman asks about about his conviction for fraud? His time
spent in prison? His assault on a woman? His BDSM and porn accounts
and interest in young girls? His ties to the EDL? His racist and
homophobic views? His abuses of power and general contempt for
democracy and the views of others? Is the plan just to delete him on
Facebook and call him a mendacious troll? Or are you just resigned to
the fact that CLEAR will always be a fringe group of 700 or 800 or so
members ignored by the mainstream and ridiculed by the demographic
they claim to represent?
Rhys Jones @a quiet man. Really? do
you honestly believe that this 100 or so people are attacking peter
for his political prowess.your sadly mistaken. why in the hell would
people who want cannabis decriminalised/legalised turn around and
stop the fight because peter so good at his job. Really?
Darryl
Bickler I think this says it all from Peter " The crazy stoners
and hopeless hippies are as much enemies of the cause as Kathy
Gyngell or Mary Brett. We will deal with them in the same way -
relentless pursuit of the truth even in the face of lies and abuse."
What can you say to that?
Jim Pinky Starr i still await hte
last question to be aswered by politics. peter cant last 2 hours on
FB how will he cope with the press!
Token Ma Weed Because the
police asked him to help get more cannabis convictions and thats all
he could do because he had already grassed everyone he knew by then .
So he told people it was legal to get more people caught and increase
convictions !
Alexander Lennox why so serious? cheer up
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=320262144699159&set=a.320261741365866.78475.164141253644583&type=3&theater
Jim
Pinky Starr withnailed as i missread it
Alan Greenfield My
God, Peter just loves posing for photos and uploading them at every
oppurtunity...
Danny Stamp Oh to have my serious questions
answered, rather than reading tedious arguments.
Raghav
Patel If Peter is so dangerous - try ignoring him and putting on your
own campaign that will help end prohibition.
Calvyn Jacques i
think evry1 on here has fallen to pro hoes that will be loughing out
soo hard reading this we should be standing shoulder to sholder not
arguing and bickering what a great example your all making. at end of
day we'r all for thing getng cannabis legal or even
decrimalized.
Sanj Chowdhary kinda Raghav? Teek taak?
Token
Ma Weed He actually looks constipated in that picture , anyway let
him pose as much as he want it just gives me a better selection of
photos when im photoshopping .
Leigh Hitchcox Darryl, if none
of this is productive then why are you and the others waisting your
time? Peter Reynolds is absolutely right, there are users for
medicinal which I'm one, there are crazy stoners wreckheads and all
the people who just want to get out off their faces for no other
reason than to be stoned for pleasure. However we all want the same
thing to be able to go to a dispensary and buy cannabis legally and
without threat of breaking the law. I can't find anything to
criticise PR for because he's doing something that I am unable to do,
regardless of his personal views and opinions!
Darryl Bickler
Before today I was all for ignorring him, but he has said such
offensive things to ordinary drug using people that I cannot accept
him as a spokesperson at all, he should be confronted whenever he
says any of these horrible things, not just about immigrants, gays,
jews, moslems but the real threat, what he thinks about the people he
is claiming to be representing - this is the worst insult of
all.
Jim Pinky Starr dont worry rag, im out there fighting
like a man even though its not doing my conditions any good! im
relying on steroids to even get out.
Raghav Patel You're all a
boring bunch of kids. Grow up and do something useful with your time.
Rather than organising the hacking of a website. Lol.
Chris
Bovey @ Alexander Lennox, I think the painter here has really
captured the essence of the man, the resemblance is striking ...
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/04/23/reynolds_goblin.jpg
Maharg
Smith The trouble is that people think they are campaigning but they
are just getting stoned...what have these people who are now bitching
ever i mean ever achieved....Peter Reynolds has achieved more quicker
and effectively than anyone i have seen (apart from one or two
americans) in 40 years of looking for progress on cannabis
George
Lennox We all want the same thing people and you are argueing amoung
yourselfs like children in the playground/
Sanj Chowdhary Why
do people employ such ridiculous logic...Peter Reynolds claims to be
pro-cannabis so we should stand shoulder to shoulder....well Stalin,
Hitler, and even Peter Hitchens had the odd point I agreed with does
that mean I should discount everything else and still stand shoulder
to shoulder?
Jim Pinky Starr peter has done a lot of good
leigh, but hes also done a lot of bad things. hes hurt a lot of
people. if this was just him then let live, but we are talking about
someone who hijacked the lca by lies or just failed to keep to his
word i think is a better way of putting it. to much bad stuff has
truned the scales for me
Çannabis Trüth Then you
don't unfortunaltey understand politics Leigh.
His personal views
and opinions, indeed his character matter very much - As this is what
the press and government will use agaisnt the movement as soon as
Peter starts making any progress.
untenable
|ˌənˈtenəbəl|
adjective
(esp. of a
position or view) not able to be maintained or defended against
attack or objection : eg Peter Reynold's leadership is clearly
untenable.
Darryl Bickler Leigh, are you saying you think
people who use cannabis for pleasure are a problem? You will lose any
claim to sympathy for your plight from me if you think you are
worthier than anyone else, you are not, whatever your claim is there
is no excuse for attacking fellow cannabis users at all if that's
what you mean.
Carl Moggy Scrivens Abusers mr reynolds I think
the only person who's abused anything here is you....you've abused
the trust so many people give you
Token Ma Weed Why dont you
go to the clear site and comment there Raghav Patel ? PR loves people
like you joining and kissing his ass just make sure you dont disagree
with him or we will see you back here with your tail between your
legs !
Katie Ion I'd like to know how Peter and his supporters
expect Jews, blacks, Arabs, and members of LGBT community and our
allies to join CLEAR. While CLEAR may only be concerned with
cannabis, it should be obvious that no one who belongs to or supports
the aforementioned groups would be likely to join a campaign led by
someone who holds the opinions that Peter Reynolds does. It seem
extremely foolish to back a leader who will, whether you like it or
not, scare off socially liberal people--who are the majority in
Britain.
Kevin John Braid i want to see the CLEAR accounts,
where is the 13.5k ppl
Chris Bovey The web site was not
hacked, Peter was legitimately expelled by the necessary quorum of
what was left of the CLEAR Exec, however, he abused his power, since
his and Jan's names were the only ones with the Electoral Commission,
so he unconstitutionally remained as leader.
Sanj Chowdhary
Raghav do you understand Hindi?
A Quiet Man guys i hope you
can get over your differences and get back to the campaigning but i
am not very hopeful for your success, if you want someone better then
stand them up and then watch others do the same as you have done to
peter and round and round we all go . I dont have the time for this
crap anymore so get over it he won the vote now move on there is
nothing more to be gained by staying in this conversation as the
views are set in stone so its just more of the same.
Kevin
John Braid more importantly i think THIS should be discussed !!! 2nd
paragraph..... pretty bad wording from a journoblooger dont ya
think....
http://hostingb.hotchyx.com/adult-image-hosting-13/5972altprofile.jpg
Raghav
Patel Prohibitionists are watching and laughing.
Graham 'Ness'
Neilson Peter Reynolds "On the CLEAR website and Facebook page,
people are only ever blocked for abuse or foul language"
That
is absolute codswallop! I am a paid member of CLEAR and I was blocked
from posting comments on the website for simply expressing my opinion
that the personal views of a party leader are extremely important as,
should those views be seen as unacceptable by society (racism,
homophobia, anti-semitism etc), the majority of the public will not
listen to anything that leader says and will put as much stock in his
views on cannabis law as they do on his views towards Jews. How is
this abusive and which of the language used is actually foul?
I
really would love a response to this but I'm guessing I shouldn't
hold my breath.
Kevin John Braid
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/193/1279052383758.jpg
Sanj
Chowdhary DO YOU UNDERSTAND HINDI RAGHAV?
Kevin John Braid i
see the EDL are getting representation Maharg Smith
Kevin John
Braid no he doesnt, it is a fake acc likely....
Darryl Bickler
Peter 'left' and the sock puppets got to work?
Raghav Patel No
I do not, Sanj. Unfortunately.
I know! Let me photoshop
pictures of a grown man and hack a website. That will do us all a
great deal of good.
Sanj Chowdhary Good ol' Graham
Smith....told me he'd reported me for benefit fraud when it would be
impossible for that to be the case!!! A man who most certainly SHOULD
reside under a bridge!!
Orson Boon Sanj no he doesn't as it's
a fake
Sanj
Chowdhary No even a single word Raghav?
Sanj Chowdhary Where
were your parents from Raghav?
Maharg Smith they just dont get
it ...they post a load of shit get no response weaken their poor
argument by so doing and then when they have polarised negative
opinion on themselves POST THE SAME SHIT AGAIN...imbeciles and
dolts.......................... cannabis activists they are not
fucking idiots yes they are
Rhys Jones still want him to answer if
recreational users of cannabis and all its forms welcome at clear,if
so why are so many banned
Çannabis Trüth All I see
when I look at your profile Raghav Is that you would vote for the BNP
if there were a general election... ∴ I think your
understanding of what will do us good isn't the same as most peoples
here : )
Jeff Ditchfield
https://www.facebook.com/questions/388740054504053/
Sanj
Chowdhary I'm surprised you've not picked up even a few words as even
my mates who are not of Indian desent are able to speak and
understand some basic words and sentences!!
Raghav Patel Lmao
a lot of you smoke WAY too much weed. Paranoia really showing
through. "Sock puppet" "Fake account"
You
clearly are not people to be reasoned with. Eventually you'll turn on
each other too. Have a good, productive day doing nothing.
Darryl
Bickler PR is welcome torepresent all cannabis users except hippies,
stoners, immigrants, jews etc
Sanj Chowdhary Another fake
profile hey Raghav/Peter?
Jim Pinky Starr isnt peter staying
for the open q n a bit?
Jim Pinky Starr @rag if u drink to
much you loose track of reality!
Des Humphrey
http://www.facebook.com/questions/388740054504053/
Çannabis
Trüth He's probably under the desk with a bottle of
whiskey.
Çannabis Trüth Trembling because he has
had an extra large dose of free speech. Thanks PoliticsUK - New
Generation : )
Jim Pinky Starr he likes wine i believe
Rhys
Jones likes to whine.
Raghav Patel I don't need to prove a
thing to you kids, but I am clearly a Gujarati (Patel tells you that)
and I can't quite understand WRITTEN ENGLISH HINDI.
The BNP
have fantastic foreign policy and would do a great deal of good for
the country, quote obviously.
Now, I must resist commenting
back as I have better things to do.
PoliticsUK - New
Generation Peter Reynolds was banned from the page due to violation
of page policy following a warning.
Jim Pinky Starr sorry to
have to join in, mine where not meant to be a attack in any way or
form, im just disapointed in some of his ways. ty for the chance to
ask. shame he never answered all questions!
Kevin John Braid
hahahha
Sanj Chowdhary He'll be writing a blog post about the
trolls and liars at UK Politics and how they fabricated
correspondence from him to make him look like a liar!!
Leigh
Hitchcox Darryl, no not at all... I've been a recreational smoker for
27 yrs and more so lately for medicinal reasons! I've lived a lot and
been around and I know the different kinds of cannabis user there is
out there. I've never known anyone in Britain represent cannabis
users so effectively and quickly so please can I be given just one
concrete, justified, fully documented and proved reason why I should
turn my back on PR...
Neil Penrose all you guys on here
arguing about clear are damaging to the cause, for or against peter
reynolds, you need to remember that nobody can take us cannabis users
seriously if we don't have a united front, and having open petty
disputes over leadership(like the power hungry bell ends we already
have in goverment) are getting seriously childish/repetitive and
making me think none of you are carrying out projects to get cannabis
legalised out of love for the plant but merely doing things to outdo
eachother
Kevin John Braid YOU ARE ALL TROLLS AND LIARS
ZE
PARTI EST MEIN, MEIN, MEIN
EICH BEIN EIN CLEAR
Kevin
John Braid go forth and like all the good comments, let us gauge
public opinion hehe
Kevin John Braid and thus on todays date,
his dickery was proven, here here
Rhys Jones i would say
typical politician answering questions with accusations and other
questions,did anyone get any answers to any of the questions they
asked?how about you PoliticsUK-New Generation?did he answer all your
questions. I hope he does'nt see this post,me saying he's like a
typical politician his head may swell and burst.
Stuart Wyatt
Did Peter remove all his comments from this thread?
Jim Pinky
Starr if he calls me a liar i will go public and he knows i will. the
good he does does not outwey the bad as i said before. im on the list
he gave the police. me and a few others are awaiting a call that the
police have been round!
Kevin John Braid ah, banned so that
maybe, damn hope someone had the cells to take screenshots....admin
will have email records hopefully
Sanj Chowdhary All Patels
aren't Gujju's Raghav...a true indian would know that!!! lol You've
just exposed yourself as a complete fake and liar!!! hahaha
Kassy
Fatooh I'm not surprised that Reynolds failed to directly answer the
tough questions put to him. It's his MO: he'll never answer a
question or accusation, just evade and attack. This makes an
interview with him rather pointless.
Jim Pinky Starr i never
hacked n wouldnt know how to but i was added to the messages and i
can go public as i just dont care anymore!
Kevin John Braid
SANJ !!!!! he is not one of us lol we are the trolls and liars, he is
just a see you enn tee
Kevin John Braid we should all call him
for comments on this interview lol.... PM me for his number.... i
dare not post it as admin would be pissed althooooo it is all public
domain hehe, if u call RECORD IT....any bloggers here
Katie
Ion As a few have asked, where are all his many supporters? Surely
they had access to this link as well. It's very strange that only his
EDL friends like Maharg, who is obviously all too happy to belong to
a right wing cannabis group, ever show up anywhere to defend
him.
Sanj Chowdhary Oh and don't forget the poor confused
young Raghav Patel....the boy of Indian descent who doesn't
understand the most basic of Hindi words and thinks that ALL Patels
are Gujratis!! lol Oh and did I mention he supports the BNP!!??
Either it's a fake profile or one hell of a poor mixed up
kid!!
Katie Ion Good god, does Peter have any active
supporters who aren't confirmed EDL/BNP members?
Maharg Smith
his supporters were at the ballot box when needed
Kevin John
Braid 01305 833516 or 07880872022 CLEAR contact number main.... this
info was in the public domain... ask about his policies and
stances.... record it if u call.... Audacity is a good easy program
to use, click click, simple, no messing about...
Maharg Smith
where are your supporters
Maharg Smith whats an EDL
Katie
Ion I'm not leading a campaign. I don't need supporters. Is Peter
going to stick to his word and have a reputable third party verify
the election and results?
Kevin John Braid hahahahaha sure u r
a hardliner EDL supporter
Maharg Smith sanj just doesnt care
anymore
Katie Ion Why won't Peter just run and promote CLEAR
as a right wing cannabis party? That would at least be
honest.
Raghav Patel Ok, the whole BNP thing is pure sarcasm,
of course I don't support them... How can you really think I do? Last
thing I will say
Token Ma Weed Oh God its Maharg Smith one off
Peters few blind followers . Did PR message you and ask you too back
him up here because ill bet he did !
Sanj Chowdhary Was that
question directed at me Graham Smith?
Kevin John Braid Peter
was in the UK Freedom party....an ofshhot of the BNP and smith there
is an EDL hardliner....
Stinking Sativas Peter Reynolds
banned! lol taste of his own medicine that, I got banned from CLEAR
for asking a question about party policy! Imagine that, wanting to
ask about party policy, how impertinent of me. I can imagine him
siting there frantically hitting BAN! BAN! BAN! If censorship was an
olympic sport wales would be due a gold this summer
Jim Pinky
Starr he was attacking ppl not posts. he was warned and ignored the
warning so got banned. it looks so good on clear!
Jim Pinky
Starr NOT
Jim
Pinky Starr if it was me i would be trying to find out what people
dont like and change things, like i did and try and make all happy.
electing a leader and giving them all the power was the biggest
mistake i have ever seen in the cannabis community. its such a shame
its ended up like this. what a mess!!!
Maharg Smith peter
should be leader he was elected leader held a volountary vote of
confidence on his leadership won a very convincing majority,runs the
website,100000 almost fb friends 5000 personal friends.works
tirelessly.has proven himself to be tough and resilient worker ,It
beggars belief that this question should be posted on a so-called
Politics site..What kind of people oppose democracy crazy stoners
thats who
Katie
Ion You don't have to read very far between the lines to know that
what Reynolds is saying is, CLEAR only wishes to represent
conservative cannabis users. Now if he wants to go that route, that's
his perogative, but the CLEAR membership should be informed in no
uncertain terms that this is the case. He has no credibility when he
claims to represent the average cannabis user.
Graham 'Ness'
Neilson Graham Smith....have u got a man crush on PR or what?! Your
nose is shoved so far up PR's backside it's hard to tell where u end
and he begins!
Graham 'Ness' Neilson And what kind of people
oppose democracy? Peter Reynolds does when it's not going his
way.
Sanj Chowdhary Democracy my arse Marharg, a vote run by
themselves, no independent overseeing, not everyone got a vote, and
when they complained to Jan they were still denied. But then I expect
such a response from someone who seeks to bully and threaten
others!!
Darryl Bickler He is for cannabis users as long as
you don't mind being criticised for using cannabis if you disagree
with anything, being a stoner, a hopeless hippy - it's as if Peter
Tatchell posted he was only wanting to advocate the choices of nice
middle class moderate gays and the proper faggots and pouffs were a
disgrace to the 'cause' hahaha
Maharg Smith only crazy stoners
would disseminate information which would undermine their own cause
and in so doing reveal themselves as the worlds poorest campaigners
"gays and the proper faggots and pouffs " deserve cannabis
too even americans should have some
Kevin John Braid DAFUQ did
i just read, GTFO with your hate boy
Sanj Chowdhary What
information?
Darryl Bickler So, Peter thinks the new enemies
of the cannabis user cause are marchers, hippies and stoners, yes we
don't need them or immigrants, jews, moslems, gays - in fact anyone
not made in the image of the great leader will be dealt with.
Katie
Ion Even if I were so indecent a person that I didn't care if the
leader of my political party was a confirmed bigot and bully, here
are just a few reasons why I'd be extremely worried about Reynolds
staying:
1) He voluntarily and publicly pledged to resign if
CLEAR didn't have 10,000 members by March 2012. Not facebook likes,
which do NOT constitute membership (come on, Maharg, you know that).
10,000 paid up, fully registered members. He made this pledge all on
his own, it was never required of him. Now he's refusing to keep his
word.
2) He claimed he would have a reputable third party
verify the vote of confidence and the results. Obviously this didn't
happen, and there's no sign that it will.
3) The CLEAR
executive didn't allow Peter's critics to communicate WHY he was up
for a vote of confidence. How on earth is that democratic? Many of
the 800 members surely had no awareness of the charges being laid
against Peter, in no small part thanks to CLEAR's efforts to purge
its facebook page of any and all criticism. It's a joke.
4)
Despite insisting on being a single-issue political party, CLEAR's
own leader is on record saying that running for elections--even BEING
electable--is not a priority for this single-issue political party.
What's the wisdom in organizing your group this way? Why not simply
run a campaign, rather than set your group up to fail?
5)
Where's the required annual audit of CLEAR's funds? Shouldn't CLEAR
members have a full account of where their dues are going? This is
such a basic requirement for any campaign, I can't believe CLEAR
members aren't demanding the information.
None of this bothers
you, CLEAR supporters? A man who repeatedly goes back on his word and
can't even produce a financial audit doesn't raise your suspicions?
The above alone should be enough to alarm anyone with two brain cells
to rub together.
Jim Pinky Starr divide that figure by at
least 10 mah(you sound like peter!)!
Maharg Smith But the main
people who should have access to cannabis are medicinal users and to
tie this group in with recreational users is the height of
campaigning folly.Once medicinal use is sanctioned then the campaign
can continue.they wont go together and medicinal use must go
first.The strong and valid arguments for recreational use cannot hope
to succeed until medical use has made progress
Graham 'Ness'
Neilson "Maharg" u are talking some absolute crap! All
anyone opposed to PR has ever done is spread the truth about that
vile man. If u want to back him that's your choice, but don't hide
behind claims that no one else can, or has, achieved what he has.
Just openly admit that u hold those same racist, homophobic and
anti-semitic views that Reynolds does and that's why u back him. I
may not like u more but I'd respect your honesty.
Kevin John
Braid so why is he so anti gay then smithy, the LGBT community were a
major player in getting prop 215 to pass in Cali....
Darryl
Bickler That's just an opinion MS, an opinion that hopes to make a
nice little earner running a protection racket at the point of a gun
to decide who gets to control cannabis medicines - much better to
start off from the premise that people have ce...
Danny Stamp
Maharg - freedom to do as you wish isn't the preserve of medicinal
cannabis users. They don't deserve to be 'more equal' than
recreational users.
Maharg Smith Graham 'Ness' Neilson....My
taxi firm i have to use are a nasty bunch of loudmouthed bastards
with outrageous views on everything...but they get me to where i am
going once i am there i couldnt give a fuck about them talk sense
graham ffs
Katie Ion Kevin's correct, the LGBT community was
vital to getting Prop 215 passed. And that's why alienating ANY
group, be they "stoners" or queer or Jewish or liberal, is
a mindblowingly stupid strategy. I don't know how anyone can claim
that WE ar...
Katie Ion Yes, running a taxi service is just
like running a public political campaign. People NEVER care what
unsavory views political leaders hold.
Graham 'Ness' Neilson
Talk sense? U've got a nerve kid, that comment made about as much
sense as trying to put out a fire with petrol.
Maharg Smith
Never met reynolds wouldnt particularly want to be in the same room
as him I am suffering from campaigning disenchantment and Clear is a
welcome sight
Darryl Bickler Taxis? Progress on the road isn't
correlated with the bigotry of the driver, that's a rubbish example
maharG
Sanj Chowdhary Anyway, bottom line is that Peter has
proven himself to be a bare-faced liar during the interview, claiming
that he was never told about his award being withdrawn and that Alan
W had never contacted him!! Politics UK immediately posted the
...
Katie Ion CLEAR is dead in the water. People are already
moving to start up new, inclusive, and democratic campaigns. Anyone
who buys Peter's bullshit about the success of CLEAR deserves to go
down with his ship. It's only willful self-delusion.
Danny
Stamp Maharg, the vast, VAST majority of cannabis users are
recreational. Why shouldn't their wants be part of a cannabis
legalisation movement? If anything it's the medicinal argument which
has come late in the day. It's a bit arrogant to then p...
Maharg
Smith The anti reynolds argument flips as it flops...They say racist
and homophobe (they dropped the kiddy fiddler bit) what if it were
true? pr and all his homophobic racist mates get cannabis made legal
who benefits ...I do To address a single issue you must practice
singlemindedness
Token Ma Weed Maybe your taxi drivers are "
crazy stoners " Graham but i wouldnt say too much because the
rate that people are getting banned from clear and the stupid reason
that are getting them banned you might get banned soon for not having
a car and using taxis !
Darryl Bickler I will tell you one
thing, I doubt a single person would oppose Clear or Reynolds without
reason, the world is calling out for a coherent voice and campaign.
Why do you really think people are so upset, because they are trolls,
liars, prohi...
Sanj Chowdhary He doesn't even have a good
idea when it comes to the cannabis campaign let alone his other
views!
Alun Buffry I don't see Reynolds answers because he has
hidden himself from me - so is it possible you could put the whole Q
and A session as a note so those of us that are blocked can read his
replies please
Maharg Smith Darryl simplicity seems to escape
you
Darryl Bickler They were removed I think but someone saved
them and put on UK420
Maharg Smith danny>I have been
funding and campaigning for 40 years....they wont just turn aound and
legalise cannabis it just will not happen...the best way forward is
to promote medicinal use which has HUGE support and then to seek
legalisation on the back of that...seems to be the proven method
stateside and seems to work
Sanj Chowdhary The argument of
medical over recreation is a ridiculous one!! And it's not from a
point of which the general public would find most acceptable, or one
of liberty (though for me personally it is) the general public want
something that offer...
Graham 'Ness' Neilson "Maharg"
the whole point is that there is very little chance of "PR and
all his homophobic racist mates" getting any joy whatsoever from
the people that matter when it comes to cannabis law. Reason being
that, if they don't already disagre...
Nik Morris @Maharg You
can't legalise cannabis. It's a plant. Plus, as drug users, were all
in this together. Recreational, medical, spititual, it makes no
difference.
Darryl Bickler What was lost through the
objectification of the users of ‘controlled drugs’ was
their legal subjectivity, persons became inextricably associated with
a supposedly indivisibly illicit object. Thus the threshold for
proportionate interferenc...
Maharg Smith Darryl Bickler I
added you as a friend thinking we had a common interest within a few
posts I thought you were strange and then with no explanation why you
sent me pictures of peter reynolds in a dressing gown calling him a
kiddy fiddler wi...
Maharg Smith Nik Morris I would agree with
you one hundred per cent nik if it wasnt for sativex..sativex
isolates cannabis from other drugs makes it a special case and that
is why i am of the mind i am....If it wasnt for this then for me it
would be civil disobedience Growing to fund activism and massive
protests
Sanj Chowdhary How is sativex a special case? It is
just a version of something we have had access to for decades! 1st
time I tried oil was nearly 2 decades ago and whilst rare it was
pretty well known. Sativex is not a game changer at all ... It is a
lie and compromise to enable profiteering of the likes that make the
black Market pale in comparrison!
Nik Morris Now I know you're
a fool MS. Darryl's submission was excellent. I'm all for people
being prescribed cannabis medicine. I'm not, however, for the arrest
of any users. Just remember that it will be others who give you your
medicine. They could just as easily take it away. That's government
for you. They're forever initiating forms of control.
Maharg
Smith And I thought you didnt care anymore sanj welcome
back.........sativex cant come fully to market whilst maintaining
cannabis has no medicinal value if you cant see that sanj you have my
sympathy
Sanj Chowdhary And you can't protect the young and
vulnerable from the harms of drug prohibition by supporting a medical
over recreational argument! If you can't see that harm to the young
and vulnerable is the biggest concern to the general public then you
are as sadly misguided and myopic like your beloved leader.
Maharg
Smith Graham 'Ness' Neilson But he is the leader of the most
successful campaign in britain so far 10000 fb likes 500 personal
likes both rising...who should i follow who graham who should i
follow in order to make cannabis universally availiable who graham
who??????? tell me and i will be on it in a flash
Darryl
Bickler Having heard Reynolds in action today here, I can tell you
that his views on people are highly objectionable, and are clearly
against cannabis users. I can hardly believe he is now calling people
who use cannabis who disagree with him to b...
Kevin John
Braid Howard Marks follow him, he is a good example... certainly not
a racist dick like Reynolds...
Kevin John Braid many activists
work on their own too...
Maharg Smith WHO
Kevin John
Braid Pinky for one... and possibly me next lol
Kevin John
Braid you might be good at recruiting for LEAP...hit up blogs and
forums, certainly need more ppl on this one... more leap is good, v
good
Danny Stamp I wonder what makes somebody a 'crazy
stoner'. Is that a reference to somebody who smokes all the time, or
whose life revolves around weed?
Nik Morris
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahaha..... I got over a thousand members of
a group called "Encourage the Welsh to grow more weed" and
that was within a week. 10,000's bugger all, especially when you
think of all the users in the country. It never fails to amaze me how
figures get bandied about. Most people I know have never ever heard
of clear.
Graham 'Ness' Neilson Who? Who? Who? Why do u have
to follow anybody? Why not just work alongside others with the same
goals? Or are u unable to think for yourself and need someone to hold
your hand?
Maharg Smith Kevin John Braid I have had the
pleasure of hitting Howard Marks in the face and calling him a
fucking thief if i followed him he would just go to the police
(again)
Nik Morris That would be me then.
Maharg
Smith Encourage the Welsh to grow more weed shows two members
Maharg
Smith post a link
Darryl Bickler He's actually now turned on
cannabis users, don't people have enough contempt to deal with borne
of ignorance and prejudice without the so-called leader saying people
are being corrupted via cannabis to be hippies, stoners and there is
no cannabis culture or community? I mean there is nothing to say
other than fuck off is there?
Nik Morris It's been archived
Marg. It was also started for a laugh. I met most of the campaigners
through it. That's the reason I'm talking to you now.
Nik
Morris If you scroll down the page you'll see some familiar names.
There was obviously more than two members...lol
Maharg Smith
Graham 'Ness' Neilson...I dont rubbish your choices you said i
followed Clear and I explaine why I do if there is another game in
town let me know..i dont like the welsh weed thing it sounds a bit
racist